A number of our companions, from Sahl Bin Ziyad and Ali Bin Ibrahim, from his father, both together from Ibn Mahboub, from Ali Bin Raib, from Abu Baseer who said, ‘I asked Abu Ja’far asws about a man who killed an insane man. So he asws said: ‘If it was that the insane intended (to kill) him, so he defended himself, so he killed him, then there is nothing upon him from a retaliation, nor a wergild, and his inheritors would be given his wergild from the public treasury of the Muslims. If his killing was from other than the insane happened to have intended (to kill) him, so there is no retaliation for the one from whom there is no retaliation. So I asws see the wergild to be upon his killer from his own wealth, to be handed over to the inheritors of the insane, and he should seek Forgiveness of Allah azwj and repent to Him azwj ’.

Translation: HubeAli — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

Ali Bin Ibrahim, from his father, from Ibn Mahboub, from Ibn Raib, from Abu Al Wardi who said, ‘I said to Abu Abdullah asws , or Abu Ja’far asws , ‘May Allah azwj Keep you asws well! An insane man attacks a man, so the insane one strikes with a strike, so the man grabs the sword from the insane, so he strikes him and kills him’. So he asws said: ‘I asws see that he would not be killed due to it, nor fined his wergild, and his wergild would happen to be upon the Imam asws , and his blood would not be invalidated’.

Translation: HubeAli — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.