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Cheese

No. ١chapter #1vol. 6 · page 339
alkafi-11901

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنِ ابْنِ مَحْبُوبٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ قَالَ:

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سَأَلْتُ أَبَا جَعْفَرٍ ع عَنِ الْجُبُنِّ فَقَالَ لِي لَقَدْ سَأَلْتَنِي عَنْ طَعَامٍ يُعْجِبُنِي ثُمَّ أَعْطَى الْغُلَامَ دِرْهَماً فَقَالَ يَا غُلَامُ ابْتَعْ لَنَا جُبُنّاً وَ دَعَا بِالْغَدَاءِ فَتَغَدَّيْنَا مَعَهُ وَ أُتِيَ بِالْجُبُنِّ فَأَكَلَ وَ أَكَلْنَا مَعَهُ فَلَمَّا فَرَغْنَا مِنَ الْغَدَاءِ قُلْتُ لَهُ مَا تَقُولُ فِي الْجُبُنِّ فَقَالَ لِي أَ وَ لَمْ تَرَنِي أَكَلْتُهُ قُلْتُ بَلَى وَ لَكِنِّي أُحِبُّ أَنْ أَسْمَعَهُ مِنْكَ فَقَالَ سَأُخْبِرُكَ عَنِ الْجُبُنِّ وَ غَيْرِهِ كُلُّ مَا كَانَ فِيهِ حَلَالٌ وَ حَرَامٌ فَهُوَ لَكَ حَلَالٌ حَتَّى تَعْرِفَ الْحَرَامَ بِعَيْنِهِ فَتَدَعَهُ‌.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

1. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from ibn Mahbub from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sinan from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sulayman who has said the following: “I once asked abu Ja‘far (a.s.), about cheese. He (the Imam) said, ’You have asked me about a food that is attractive to me. 5 He (the Imam) then gave a dirham to the boy and asked him to bring cheese. He (the Imam) asked for lunch which was brought. He (the Imam) ate and we ate with him (the Imam). When we finished lunch I asked, ‘What do you say about cheese? 5 He (the Imam) asked me, ‘Did you not see me eating it with you? 5 I replied, ‘Yes, I saw you but I like to hear it from you. 5 He (the Imam) said, ‘I will tell you about cheese and other things. Whatever has lawful in it as well as unlawful is lawful for you, until you learn that it particularly is unlawful, then you must leave it.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مجهولAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (2/172)
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[2]انما سأل الراوي عن حل الجبن و حرمته لمكان الانفحة التي توضع فيه و تكون في الاكثر الميتة. و قد مضى الكلام فيه.( فى).ص 339

No. ٢chapter #2vol. 6 · page 339
alkafi-11902

أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ الْكُوفِيُّ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَحْمَدَ النَّهْدِيِ‌ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْوَلِيدِ عَنْ أَبَانِ بْنِ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سُلَيْمَانَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع‌ فِي الْجُبُنِّ قَالَ

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كُلُّ شَيْ‌ءٍ لَكَ حَلَالٌ حَتَّى يَجِيئَكَ شَاهِدَانِ يَشْهَدَانِ عِنْدَكَ أَنَّ فِيهِ مَيْتَةً.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

2. Ahmad ibn Muhammad al-Kufiy has narrated from Muhammad ibn Ahmad al-Nahdiy from Muhammad ibn al-Walid from Aban ibn ‘Abd al-Rahman from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sulayman who has said the following: “About cheese abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘Everything is lawful for you until two witnesses testify before you that it is dead animal.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • ضعيف على المشهورAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (2/173)
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[3]في بعض النسخ‌[ أحمد بن محمّد النهدى‌] فالخبر مجهول.ص 339

No. ٣chapter #3vol. 6 · page 340
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مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ عَلِيِّ بْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ الْهَاشِمِيِّ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْفَضْلِ النَّيْسَابُورِيِّ عَنْ بَعْضِ رِجَالِهِ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ:

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سَأَلَهُ رَجُلٌ عَنِ الْجُبُنِّ فَقَالَ دَاءٌ لَا دَوَاءَ فِيهِ فَلَمَّا كَانَ بِالْعَشِيِّ دَخَلَ الرَّجُلُ عَلَى أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع فَنَظَرَ إِلَى الْجُبُنِّ عَلَى الْخِوَانِ فَقَالَ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ سَأَلْتُكَ بِالْغَدَاةِ عَنِ الْجُبُنِّ فَقُلْتَ لِي إِنَّهُ هُوَ الدَّاءُ الَّذِي لَا دَوَاءَ لَهُ وَ السَّاعَةَ أَرَاهُ عَلَى الْخِوَانِ قَالَ فَقَالَ لِي هُوَ ضَارٌّ بِالْغَدَاةِ نَافِعٌ بِالْعَشِيِّ وَ يَزِيدُ فِي مَاءِ الظَّهْرِ. - وَ رُوِيَ‌ أَنَّ مَضَرَّةَ الْجُبُنِّ فِي قِشْرِهِ‌.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

3. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ali ibn Ibrahim al-Hashimiy, from his father from Muhammad ibn al- Fadl al-Naysaburiy from certain persons of our people who has said the following: “A man once asked abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), about cheese. He (the Imam) said, ‘It is an illness for which there is no cure.’ When it was al-‘Isha’ (evening) the man came to abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), and looked at cheese on the table-spread and said, ‘I pray to Allah to keep my soul in service for your cause. At lunchtime, I asked you about cheese. You said to me that it is an illness for which there is no cure and now I see it on the table-spread.’ He (the Imam) said, ‘It is harmful at lunch and useful in dinner and it increases the water of one’s back.’ It is narrated that harmfulness of cheese is in its crust.”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مجهول وآخره مرسلAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (2/173)
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[1]لعل المراد بقشره: الغشاء الذي يعرضه بعد ما يبس فان القشر- بالكسر- غشاء الشي‌ء خلقة او عرضا.( فى) و في هامش المطبوع قشر الجبن ما يلاقى أيدي الناس كذا افيد و يحتمل أن يكون المراد به جلد الانفحة.ص 340