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The Case of One Who Forgets Throwing Pebbles or Is Ignorant

No. ١chapter #1vol. 4 · page 484
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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ عَمَّارٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ:

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قُلْتُ لَهُ رَجُلٌ نَسِيَ أَنْ يَرْمِيَ الْجِمَارَ حَتَّى أَتَى مَكَّةَ قَالَ يَرْجِعُ فَيَرْمِيهَا يَفْصِلُ بَيْنَ كُلِّ رَمْيَتَيْنِ بِسَاعَةٍ قُلْتُ فَاتَهُ ذَلِكَ وَ خَرَجَ قَالَ لَيْسَ عَلَيْهِ شَيْ‌ءٌ قَالَ قُلْتُ فَرَجُلٌ نَسِيَ السَّعْيَ بَيْنَ الصَّفَا وَ الْمَرْوَةِ فَقَالَ يُعِيدُ السَّعْيَ قُلْتُ فَاتَهُ ذَلِكَ حَتَّى خَرَجَ قَالَ يَرْجِعُ فَيُعِيدُ السَّعْيَ إِنَّ هَذَا لَيْسَ كَرَمْيِ الْجِمَارِ إِنَّ الرَّمْيَ سُنَّةٌ وَ السَّعْيَ بَيْنَ الصَّفَا وَ الْمَرْوَةِ فَرِيضَةٌ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

1. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Ibn Abi ‘Umayr from Mu‘awiyah ibn ‘Ammar who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘ Abd Allah (a.s.), about a man who forgets throwing pebbles on al- Jamar until he is in Makkah. He (the Imam) said, ‘He must go back to throw pebbles with an interval of an hour between two throwing/ I then asked about if he misses it and leaves. He (the Imam) said, ‘He is not obligated for anything in this matter. 5 I asked him (the Imam) about the case of a person’s missing Sa‘y between al-Safa’ and al-Marwah. He (the Imam) said, ‘He must do it again.’ I then asked about if he misses it and leaves. He (the Imam) said, ‘He must come back and do Sa‘y between al- Safa’ and al-Marwah again, it is not like throwing pebbles on al-Jamar. Throwing pebbles on al-Jamar is sunnah and Sa‘y between al-Safa’ and al-Marwah is obligatory.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • حسنAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (18/152)
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[1]أي ظهر وجوبه من السنة.( آت)ص 484

No. ١chapter #1vol. 5 · pages 534-535
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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ [عَنْ أَبِيهِ‌] عَنْ هَارُونَ بْنِ مُسْلِمٍ عَنْ مَسْعَدَةَ بْنِ صَدَقَةَ عَنْ‌ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ

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قَالَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع‌ لَا تَبْدَءُوا النِّسَاءَ بِالسَّلَامِ وَ لَا تَدْعُوهُنَّ إِلَى الطَّعَامِ فَإِنَّ النَّبِيَّ ص قَالَ النِّسَاءُ عَيٌّ وَ عَوْرَةٌ فَاسْتُرُوا عِيَّهُنَّ بِالسُّكُوتِ وَ اسْتُرُوا عَوْرَاتِهِنَّ بِالْبُيُوتِ‌.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

1. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Harun ibn Muslim from Mas’adah ibn Sadaqah who has said the following: “Abu ‘ Abd Allah (a.s.), has said that ’Amir al-Mu’minin has said, ’You must not initiate Salam (the phrase of offering greeting of peace) to women and you must not invite them for food; the Holy Prophet (saww) has said, “Women are tiredness (weakness in communication) and a matter of private nature thus, you must cover their tiredness with quietness and the privacy of their nature with homes.'"

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • ضعيفAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (20/373)
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[1]العى: العجز عن البيان اي لا يمكنهن التكلم بما ينبغي في أكثر المواطن فاسعوا في سكوتهن لئلا يظهر منهن ما تكرهونه فالمراد بالسكوت سكوتهن و يحتمل أن يكون المراد سكوت الرجال المخاطبين و عدم التكلم معهم لئلا يتكلمن بما يؤذيهم. و العورة ما يستحيى منه و ينبغي ستره.( آت)ص 535

No. ٢chapter #2vol. 4 · page 484
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عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنِ النَّضْرِ بْنِ سُوَيْدٍ وَ غَيْرِهِ عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ سِنَانٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع‌ فِي رَجُلٍ أَفَاضَ مِنْ جَمْعٍ حَتَّى انْتَهَى إِلَى مِنًى فَعَرَضَ لَهُ عَارِضٌ فَلَمْ يَرْمِ الْجَمْرَةَ حَتَّى غَابَتِ الشَّمْسُ قَالَ

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يَرْمِي إِذَا أَصْبَحَ مَرَّتَيْنِ إِحْدَاهُمَا بُكْرَةً وَ هِيَ لِلْأَمْسِ وَ الْأُخْرَى عِنْدَ زَوَالِ الشَّمْسِ وَ هِيَ لِيَوْمِهِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

2. A number of our people have narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from al-Husayn ibn Sa‘id from al-Nadr ibn Suwayd and others from ‘Abd Allah ibn Sinan who has said the following: “This is about a man who leaves Jam‘ (al-Muzdalifah) until he arrives in Mina’ and something happens to him because of which he does not throw pebbles until it is sunset. He (the Imam) said, ‘The next day he must throw pebbles twice, once early in the day for the day before and one at Zawal (declining of the sun toward the west at noontime) for the same day.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • صحيحAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (18/153)
No. ٢chapter #2vol. 5 · page 535
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مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ يَحْيَى عَنْ غِيَاثِ بْنِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع أَنَّهُ قَالَ:

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لَا تُسَلِّمْ عَلَى الْمَرْأَةِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

2. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from Muhammad ibn Yahya from Ghiyath ibn Ibrahim who has said the following: “Abu ’Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘You (men) must not offer Salam (the phrase of offering greeting of peace) to a woman.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • موثقAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (20/374)
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[2]محمول على الكراهة مع تخصيصها بالشابة كما يدلّ عليهما الخبر الآتي( آت)ص 535

No. ٣chapter #3vol. 4 · pages 484-485
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وَ عَنْهُ عَنْ فَضَالَةَ بْنِ أَيُّوبَ عَنْ مُعَاوِيَةَ بْنِ عَمَّارٍ قَالَ:

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سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع مَا تَقُولُ فِي امْرَأَةٍ جَهِلَتْ أَنْ تَرْمِيَ الْجِمَارَ حَتَّى نَفَرَتْ إِلَى مَكَّةَ قَالَ فَلْتَرْجِعْ وَ لْتَرْمِ‌ الْجِمَارَ كَمَا كَانَتْ تَرْمِي وَ الرَّجُلُ كَذَلِكَ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

3. It is narrated from him (narrator of previous Hadith) from Fadalah ibn Ayyub from Mu‘awiyah ibn ‘Ammar who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), about the case of a woman who is ignorant of throwing pebbles until she leaves Makkah. He (the Imam) said, ‘She must return to throw pebbles as she was required to throw and the same rule applies to man.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • صحيحAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (8/154)
No. ٣chapter #3vol. 5 · page 535
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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنْ حَمَّادِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنْ رِبْعِيِّ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ:

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كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص يُسَلِّمُ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ وَ يَرْدُدْنَ عَلَيْهِ وَ كَانَ أَمِيرُ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ ع يُسَلِّمُ عَلَى النِّسَاءِ وَ كَانَ يَكْرَهُ أَنْ يُسَلِّمَ عَلَى الشَّابَّةِ مِنْهُنَّ وَ يَقُولُ أَتَخَوَّفُ أَنْ يُعْجِبَنِي صَوْتُهَا فَيَدْخُلَ عَلَيَّ أَكْثَرُ مِمَّا طَلَبْتُ مِنَ الْأَجْرِ.

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3. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Hammad ibn ‘Isa from Rib’i ibn ‘Abd Allah who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said that the Messenger of Allah (saww) would offer Salam (the phrase of offering greeting of peace) to women and they would respond in return and ’Amir al- Mu’minin would offer Salam (the phrase of offering greeting of peace) to women but disliked to offer Salam (the phrase of offering greeting of peace) to the young ones, saying, ’I am afraid their voice may attract me and make me feel negatively more than the reward I am seeking.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • حسنAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (0/374)
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[3]تقدم في المجلد الثاني ص 648 تحت عنوان« باب التسليم على النساء».ص 535

No. ٤chapter #4vol. 4 · page 485
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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ جَمِيلٍ عَنْ زُرَارَةَ وَ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ مُسْلِمٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع أَنَّهُ قَالَ:

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فِي الْخَائِفِ لَا بَأْسَ بِأَنْ يَرْمِيَ الْجِمَارَ بِاللَّيْلِ وَ يُضَحِّيَ بِاللَّيْلِ وَ يُفِيضَ بِاللَّيْلِ‌.

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4. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Ibn Abi ‘Umayr from Jamil from Zurarah who has said the following: “This is about a man who is afraid. Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘It is not harmful to throw pebbles during the night, slaughter offering and leave (al-Muzdalifah) during the night.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • حسنAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (8/154)
الهوامش · 1

[1]يدل على أنّه يجوز لذوى الاعذار ايقاع تلك الافعال في الليل و ظاهره الليلة المتقدمة.( آت)ص 485

No. ٤chapter #4vol. 5 · page 535
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عَلِيُّ بْنُ إِبْرَاهِيمَ عَنْ أَبِيهِ عَنِ ابْنِ أَبِي عُمَيْرٍ عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ سَالِمٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ

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قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص‌ النِّسَاءُ عَيٌّ وَ عَوْرَةٌ فَاسْتُرُوا الْعَوْرَاتِ بِالْبُيُوتِ وَ اسْتُرُوا الْعِيَّ بِالسُّكُوتِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

4. Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from Ibn Abi ‘Umayr from Hisham ibn Salim who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said that the Messenger of Allah has said, ‘Women are tiredness (weakness in communication) and a matter of private nature thus, you must cover the privacy of their nature with homes and their tiredness with quietness.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • حسنAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (20/375)
No. ٥chapter #5vol. 4 · page 485
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عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ أَخِيهِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ زُرْعَةَ عَنْ سَمَاعَةَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع

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‌ أَنَّهُ كَرِهَ رَمْيَ الْجِمَارِ بِاللَّيْلِ‌ وَ رَخَّصَ لِلْعَبْدِ وَ الرَّاعِي فِي رَمْيِ الْجِمَارِ لَيْلًا

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

5. A number of our people have narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from al-Husayn ibn Sa‘id from his brother al-Hassan from Zur’ah from Sanaa ‘ah who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), disliked throwing pebbles during the night; but he gave permission to slaves and people tending camels to throw pebbles on al-Jamar during night.”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • موثقAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (18/155)
الهوامش · 1

[2]لعل الكراهة محمول على الحرمة.( آت)ص 485