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About Qadid (Dried Meat)

No. ١chapter #1vol. 6 · page 314
alkafi-11754

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ عَنْ عَبْدِ الصَّمَدِ بْنِ بَشِيرٍ عَنْ عَطِيَّةَ أَخِي أَبِي الْمَغْرَاءِ قَالَ:

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قُلْتُ لِأَبِي جَعْفَرٍ ع إِنَّ أَصْحَابَ الْمُغِيرَةِ يَنْهَوْنَ عَنْ أَكْلِ الْقَدِيدِ الَّتِي لَمْ تَمَسَّهُ النَّارُ فَقَالَ لَا بَأْسَ بِأَكْلِهِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

1. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from al-Hassan ibn Ali from ‘Abd al-Samad ibn Bashir from ‘ Atiyyah brother of al-Mighra’ who has said the following: “I once said to abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), that companions of al-Mughirah prohibit eating of meat which is dried up in the sun and fire has not touched it. He (the Imam) said, ‘It is not unlawful to eat it.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مجهولAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (22/137)
No. ٢chapter #2vol. 6 · page 314
alkafi-11755

عَنْهُ رَفَعَهُ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ:

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قُلْتُ لَهُ إِنَّ اللَّحْمَ يُقَدَّدُ وَ يُذَرُّ عَلَيْهِ الْمِلْحُ وَ يُجَفَّفُ فِي الظِّلِّ فَقَالَ لَا بَأْسَ بِأَكْلِهِ لِأَنَّ الْمِلْحَ قَدْ غَيَّرَهُ‌.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

2. It is narrated from the narrator of the previous Hadith in a marfu‘ manner who has said the following: “I once asked abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), if meat can be dried up by salting and leaving in the shade. He (the Imam) said, ‘It is not unlawful to eat it because salt has changed it.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

Hadith gradings

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  • مرفوعAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (2/137)
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[2]في بعض النسخ‌[ فان الملح قد غيره‌].ص 314

No. ٣chapter #3vol. 6 · page 314
alkafi-11756

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ مُوسَى بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ الثَّالِثِ ع قَالَ

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كَانَ يَقُولُ‌ مَا أَكَلْتُ طَعَاماً أَبْقَى وَ لَا أَهْيَجَ لِلدَّاءِ مِنَ اللَّحْمِ الْيَابِسِ يَعْنِي الْقَدِيدَ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

3. Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Musa ibn al-Hassan from Muhammad ibn ‘Isa who has said the following: “Abu al-Hassan, al-Thalith (a.s.), would say, ‘I have not used anything for food more inducing illnesses than dried up meat, that is, al-Qadid.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • صحيح على الظاهرAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (22/137)
No. ٤chapter #4vol. 6 · page 314
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عَنْهُ عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ ع

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أَنَّهُ كَانَ يَقُولُ‌ الْقَدِيدُ لَحْمُ سَوْءٍ لِأَنَّهُ يَسْتَرْخِي فِي الْمَعِدَةِ وَ يُهَيِّجُ كُلَّ دَاءٍ وَ لَا يَنْفَعُ مِنْ شَيْ‌ءٍ بَلْ يَضُرُّهُ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

4. It is narrated from the narrator of the previous Hadith who has said the following: “Abu al-Hassan (a.s.), would say, ‘Al-Qadid (dried up meat) is a bad kind of meat because it softens in the stomach and induces every kind of illness and it does not benefit anything, instead it harms.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • صحيح على الظاهرAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (2/138)
No. ٥chapter #5vol. 6 · page 314
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عِدَّةٌ مِنْ أَصْحَابِنَا عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ خَالِدٍ عَنْ بَعْضِ أَصْحَابِهِ رَفَعَهُ قَالَ

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قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع‌ شَيْئَانِ صَالِحَانِ لَمْ يَدْخُلَا جَوْفَ وَاحِدٍ قَطُّ فَاسِداً إِلَّا أَصْلَحَاهُ وَ شَيْئَانِ فَاسِدَانِ لَمْ يَدْخُلَا جَوْفاً قَطُّ صَالِحاً إِلَّا أَفْسَدَاهُ فَالصَّالِحَانِ الرُّمَّانُ وَ الْمَاءُ الْفَاتِرُ وَ الْفَاسِدَانِ الْجُبُنُّ وَ الْقَدِيدُ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

5. A number of our people have narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad from ibn Khalid from certain persons of his people in a marfu ‘ manner who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘There are two good things that never enter a bad stomach which they do not repair, and there are two bad things which never enter a good stomach which they do not damage. The two good things are pomegranate and warm water, and the two bad things are cheese and al-Qadid (dried up meat).”’

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مرفوعAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (22/138)
No. ٦chapter #6vol. 6 · pages 314-315
alkafi-11759

قَالَ وَ رُوِيَ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع قَالَ:

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ثَلَاثَةٌ يَهْدِمْنَ الْبَدَنَ وَ رُبَّمَا قَتَلْنَ أَكْلُ الْقَدِيدِ الْغَابِ‌ وَ دُخُولُ الْحَمَّامِ عَلَى الْبِطْنَةِ وَ نِكَاحُ الْعَجَائِزِ. - قَالَ وَ زَادَ فِيهِ أَبُو إِسْحَاقَ النَّهَاوَنْدِيُ‌ وَ غِشْيَانُ النِّسَاءِ عَلَى الِامْتِلَاءِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

6. He has said that:Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘Three things destroy the body; perhaps kill a person. One is eating of rotten meat, going to the bath with a full stomach and going to bed with old women. He has said that abu Ishaq al-Nahawandiy has added, going to bed with women when one’s stomach is full.’”

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مرسلAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (22/138)
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[3]غب اللحم و اغب فهو غاب و مغب إذا انتن.ص 314

No. ٧chapter #7vol. 6 · page 315
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عَنْهُ عَنْ بَعْضِ أَصْحَابِهِ رَفَعَهُ قَالَ

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قَالَ أَبُو عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع‌ ثَلَاثٌ لَا يُؤْكَلْنَ وَ هُنَّ يُسْمِنَّ وَ ثَلَاثٌ يُؤْكَلْنَ وَ هُنَّ يَهْزِلْنَ وَ اثْنَانِ يَنْفَعَانِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‌ءٍ وَ لَا يَضُرَّانِ مِنْ شَيْ‌ءٍ وَ اثْنَانِ يَضُرَّانِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‌ءٍ وَ لَا يَنْفَعَانِ مِنْ شَيْ‌ءٍ فَأَمَّا اللَّوَاتِي لَا يُؤْكَلْنَ وَ يُسْمِنَّ اسْتِشْعَارُ الْكَتَّانِ وَ الطِّيبُ وَ النُّورَةُ وَ أَمَّا اللَّوَاتِي يُؤْكَلْنَ وَ يَهْزِلْنَ فَهُوَ اللَّحْمُ الْيَابِسُ وَ الْجُبُنُّ وَ الطَّلْعُ وَ فِي حَدِيثٍ آخَرَ الْجَرَزُ وَ الْكُسْبُ‌ وَ اللَّذَانِ يَنْفَعَانِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‌ءٍ وَ لَا يَضُرَّانِ مِنْ شَيْ‌ءٍ فَالْمَاءُ الْفَاتِرُ وَ الرُّمَّانُ وَ اللَّذَانِ يَضُرَّانِ مِنْ كُلِّ شَيْ‌ءٍ وَ لَا يَنْفَعَانِ مِنْ شَيْ‌ءٍ فَاللَّحْمُ الْيَابِسُ وَ الْجُبُنُّ قُلْتُ جُعِلْتُ فِدَاكَ ثَمَّ قُلْتَ يَهْزِلْنَ وَ قُلْتَ هَاهُنَا يَضُرَّانِ فَقَالَ أَ مَا عَلِمْتَ أَنَّ الْهُزَالَ مِنَ الْمَضَرَّةِ.

Read English translationMuhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn

7. It is narrated from the narrator of the previous Hadith from certain persons of his people in a marfu‘ manner who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah (a.s.), has said, ‘Use of three things forms fat in one’s body, another three things cause weight loss. Two things benefit harmlessly and two things do all kinds of harm without any benefit. The three that can cause fatness are use of linen, perfume and lime. The ones that can cause weight loss are eating dried meat, cheese and spadix (al-Tal’). In another Hadith it is meat of the back of the camel and residue of oil.’ The two that benefit without harm are warm water and pomegranate, and the two that harm without any benefit are dried meat and cheese.’ I then said, ‘I pray to Allah to keep my soul in service for your cause, ‘Are the ones that cause weight loss harmful?’ He (the Imam) said, ‘Have you not heard that losing weight is harmful?”’

Translation: Muhammad Sarwar — attributed by Thaqalayn·The Arabic above is the original.

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  • مرفوعAllamah Baqir al-MajlisiMirʾāt al-ʿUqūl fī Sharḥ Akhbār Āl al-Rasūl (22/138)
الهوامش · 1

[1]الجرز- بالتحريك-: لحم ظهر الجمل، و في بعض النسخ‌[ الجوز] و الكسب بضم الكاف عصارة الدهن.ص 315